坂本龍馬 sakamoto ryouma (
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[ open ] all hands on deck
Who ⬤ sakamoto ryouma (rider) + other sutoku alliance lost souls
What ⬤ post-event emergency meeting
When ⬤ several hours after the assassination
Where ⬤ konoha — vip area
Content Warnings ⬤ none right now but will update as needed!
[ once the dust (steam?) has settled, an sms goes out to fellow sutoku alliance contacts. some might recognise the username rider more than others and know the man it's attached to but in any case, everyone who shows up will know him soon enough anyway. ]
[someone has to keep the spirit of the daitengu alive, okay?? the message also comes attached with a calendar invite. ]
[ later, anyone arriving for the meeting will be directed to the club's VIP area and encouraged to place food and drink orders as desired. this has definitely set ryouma back, but under the present circumstances, there's no better time than this to spare no expense, right? ]

☆ ooc; this is a mingle in addition to a general sort of information sharing prompt so feel free to throw your own top levels up and thread amongst yourselves! i give everyone free rein to threadjack as you see fit — just check with other individual players if you have any questions!
☆ i left the exact time of the meeting sort of open, but assume it's sometime within the next half-day or so after the assassination to account for people needing to finish up investigations, potentially heal up a little after fighting, time for him to book the club, etc. feel free to have characters wander in late too!
☆ i also provided the option for characters to phone in (since it was mentioned to me on the ooc post), so if they can't make it in person they can still be in the loop!
☆ any non-Sutoku tag-a-longs are assumed to be showing up late so as not to be sitting in on private discussions earlier in the night.
What ⬤ post-event emergency meeting
When ⬤ several hours after the assassination
Where ⬤ konoha — vip area
Content Warnings ⬤ none right now but will update as needed!
[ once the dust (steam?) has settled, an sms goes out to fellow sutoku alliance contacts. some might recognise the username rider more than others and know the man it's attached to but in any case, everyone who shows up will know him soon enough anyway. ]
Hello!
There's a lot of confusion right now, but what's important is to stay calm and not do anything hasty. I'll be organising a meeting tonight at Konoha. Let's exchange what we know and discuss next steps. You're going to have to pay for your own refreshments though, sorry! Space is on me though! (*_ _)人
Don't be discouraged! We're only getting started. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
If you think there are any other Sutoku who haven't gotten this, pass the message along, ok?
— Rider
There's a lot of confusion right now, but what's important is to stay calm and not do anything hasty. I'll be organising a meeting tonight at Konoha. Let's exchange what we know and discuss next steps. You're going to have to pay for your own refreshments though, sorry! Space is on me though! (*_ _)人
Don't be discouraged! We're only getting started. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
If you think there are any other Sutoku who haven't gotten this, pass the message along, ok?
— Rider
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[ later, anyone arriving for the meeting will be directed to the club's VIP area and encouraged to place food and drink orders as desired. this has definitely set ryouma back, but under the present circumstances, there's no better time than this to spare no expense, right? ]

☆ ooc; this is a mingle in addition to a general sort of information sharing prompt so feel free to throw your own top levels up and thread amongst yourselves! i give everyone free rein to threadjack as you see fit — just check with other individual players if you have any questions!
☆ i left the exact time of the meeting sort of open, but assume it's sometime within the next half-day or so after the assassination to account for people needing to finish up investigations, potentially heal up a little after fighting, time for him to book the club, etc. feel free to have characters wander in late too!
☆ i also provided the option for characters to phone in (since it was mentioned to me on the ooc post), so if they can't make it in person they can still be in the loop!
☆ any non-Sutoku tag-a-longs are assumed to be showing up late so as not to be sitting in on private discussions earlier in the night.
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[ so there, he said it outright. maybe when this is all over and the truth comes out that'll seem ridiculous if he's wrong, but with so many questions in the air, it's a possibility that's still on the table. ]
The entire point of the Daitengu is that the Daitengu is more of an idea, right? You can't exactly kill an idea, you can only kill the body wearing the costume at the time. We didn't see or hear the Daitengu like the others, so there's no guarantee the person who spoke was the same person who typed out the post on the network.
[ but that's all he's got, so he sighs and trails off. ]
It's just hard to see the point, you know? Maybe I'm overthinking it. It's hard to guess anyone's motives when we don't know what they want. The kappa weren't exactly talking...
[ because he sure did try. ]
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Yes! Exactly! This must be some manner of game being played, we're just not being let in on the rules. Or perhaps that is the game. This has felt like some twisted test to me from the start, like we're supposed to riddle out our own faction's intentions. [they try to level out their look a bit... it only helps so much]
If we are the ones overthinking this, then nobody else is thinking enough.
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In that case, I'll overthink it a little more and say we should treat this like it is real, even if it's not. There's no rule that says it can't be both at the same time; maybe the tengu got wind that something might happen and saw an opportunity to add a layer to it. Or.. maybe not.
[ he could go on, but that would just be annoying. he's made his point. ryouma pulled a little notebook out of his sleeve at some point and started scrawling on some of the pages intermittently. ]
We need information more than anything else. It's easy to outsmart your enemies when you know more than they do.
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[this is mostly Ydris' frustration. Hidden enemies are the worst kind, entirely cowardly, but then they aren't clever about conspiracy. They can link together information well enough, but understanding an intricate web of relationships and motivations isn't really their wheelhouse.
Still, that frustration motivates them to participate for what it's worth, until they burn out on the idea of caring about all this]
I have a few pieces of information I noted.
Firstly, the full Alliance seemed just as willing to protect the Kappa's plans as they were. I thought a coup attempt wasn't possible in that case.
However, the lower level Kappa themselves seem... unaware of what they even made. If the intended purpose wasn't to create the steam distraction, that means it was sabotaged by another agent. Or the higher ranking Kappa used their subordinates as sacrificial pawns, though I cannot imagine to what end. [something they cannot connect with. As a leader built for the purpose of protecting humans, the idea of throwing them to the fire, so to speak, for personal gain is unfathomable.]
The last thing of note was the Daitengu themself. Nobody was allowed to verify the identity of the person within the suit at the time. As if maintaining anonymity matters once one is dead.... but that suit had openings for wings. Wings that were not put to use in escaping the chaos, something all the other leaders had no trouble in reacting with in the moment. [so that's suspicious or the Daitengu was just incompetent in a crisis. Ydris doesn't know what is worse]
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[ it's another shared frustration in the not knowing. one that's made worse by the fact that he's come here after a long time of disheartening, unfulfilling work. he's not exactly keen on being forced to play games that only make things worse, so ryouma would like to believe that the overall goals of this alliance are higher than all that. ]
I've heard similar myself, particularly about the lower-ranking Kappa. They're scared that without the Daitengu there's going to be trouble and I can't blame them for feeling that way. I've seen how these things go.
[ these things. sometimes ryouma wonders if he's seeing things clearly anymore or if he's been doing this so long he's started to lose his edge. ]
But think about it... who would have the power and influence to contract the Kappa to build that machine in secret? And then make all of their leaders mysteriously vanish all at once? Someone who could make it look like an inside job and kill two birds with one stone. Ah—... heh. So to speak.
[ these might be serious talks but he's not above laughing at his own dumb jokes. he also feels like he knows the answer to his own question, but the whole point of this is to find out what other people think. ]
Besides, the Daitengu is an appointed position. Unlike the others, they aren't claiming power thanks to lineage. Why wouldn't you appoint your best? [ someone still has a favourable and optimistic view of democracy. ] The Alliance hasn't carved out a place for itself here by accident, so I like to think the Daitengu wouldn't make it that easy unless they thought letting everyone think they were dead could be used to their advantage.
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["just following orders" or some shit? Very grating to Ydris on a personal level, probably because they've been guilty of as much in their past. Following authority blindly is a suckers way of living. The Kappa are pitiful... and Ydris doesn't have much sympathy for that.]
If the Daitengu was their best, they shouldn't be dead. I severely doubt that they are. This is some manner of play. [and if they are truly dead and gone, Ydris is pretty certain they weren't strong or reliable enough to hold such power, so good riddance? They can all go home and stop caring about this?
No... no, no, there must be something here-]
If the Kappa are so foolish, perhaps this could be used to cut out their dead weight.
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[ he answers quickly and firmly, but if they're just throwing ideas out there he's gotta shut that one right down. ]
Whether or not this is a test or a game there's no "winning" at this that leaves anyone behind. Every member is valuable. As for that device, that's a common enough practice, isn't it? People build complex things all the time using skilled labourers who specialise in one thing. And that proves that they're not stupid, although they may be ignorant and there's no crime in that.
[ it's difficult not to feel it on a personal level, considering his own experience. he'd gotten to see exactly what can happen when enough of the people considered "dead weight" by society work together for a common goal. ]
Have you considered that the Enma might be behind the whole thing?
[ since he's just saying things here outright, he might as well. ]
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They just... aren't yet. So, brushing passed the sting their immaturity feels over such a correction, they just make a bit of a face over it. More thought required! What more is there...]
You're right. It doesn't make sense to... what is the saying-? Cut off your nose to spite your face? [something like that, that old goat that Ydris begrudgely respected would say things like that all the time. Some even stuck with Ydris, heaven forbid]
Making the Alliance vulnerable is only harmful to it, yes? There's not some hidden advantage to such a thing deliberately-?
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Exactly. [ ryouma gets the idea that ydris is trying to work through this in terms of where they want to stand on the issues but doesn't point it out. he likes to think he picked up some of the better habits from the greater men he learned from in the past; that is, where he's ideally not discouraging anyone entirely from thinking it through. ]
Not in this case, no. A long time ago, I helped another alliance no one thought could succeed at the time. One-half of that alliance was a group that everyone expected to be crushed if it came down to an actual conflict, but we would have lost everything without them. Alliances are strong because of how the different groups support each other. That's our advantage over the other factions; they're going to have a harder time covering their weaknesses.
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Take this all at face value and we're quite simply fucked.
[Ydris doesn't see much faith to be had here. The Alliance has either weakened itself through some internal power grab... or been taken by surprise and dealt a blow? Not a very good first impression for new recruits.
Their mind wraps back to are they just overthinking this-? How circular this all is. Their mind turns, but it's just wheels spinning to exhaustion. Are they just supposed to wait it out, sit on their hands, hope the puzzle reveals itself with time?]
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[ he should expect the cool story, bro from people since it happens more frequently now than it ever has but he's always a little surprised anyway. ]
We can't count on unity. Not yet. Couldn't back then either, which is why we have work to do, that's my point! The first thing I heard coming here was that this alliance isn't as united as anyone would like, so it's not like any of this should really come as a surprise. We would need to work on this even if this hadn't happened. It's just that we need to do it quicker and a lot more urgently now, eheh...
[ no pressure. it isn't experience that makes ryouma as calm about this as he is — he's always been like this. but ydris clearly seems to want more from this than just spinning ideas, so he turns his thoughts to that instead for now. ]
We need to be prepared to back up the Kappa. We can't stop whatever they're worried about the Enma doing, but if the goal is to weaken the Kappa and get them out of the picture, then we as Lost Souls need to be prepared to fill the gap. I've been down to the Underground, more or less, so we should start there. How much do you know about that?
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They listen intently to what he says, because it actually feels like something to do! Until that last bit. The sewers. So that is... something for... others to do!
Ydris makes a twitchy smile, like they might want to say something snide, then realizes it's a bad idea. Thanks, Junpei, for the trial run of accidentally announcing core weaknesses. Maybe they shouldn't do that, even among supposed allies. Best to keep that a little closer to home.]
Not much. [can't go down there, literally not safe for work (when you're a candle)]
I was tasked to guard a far off exit point to the river, just before the parade. Something the Kappa seemed to have removed a grate from, probably so they could discretely move to and from the sewers. Lan Wangji investigated it more closely than I did.
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The purpose is unknown. But, movement would have been expedited.
Nor was that tunnel the only case.
[he's not willing to say he knows for sure why the grates were removed -- that's speculating in advance of the data -- but it's a pretty compelling theory. another question would be whether they'd used those tunnels to move more than just themselves...
his even voice goes flatter, slightly more clipped, as he recalls his escape from the same sewers just before the steam started to circulate underground underground in earnest. the goal was clearly to keep the architecture truly hostile to interlopers, right up till the end.]
During the festival, some changes were reversed. Movement was made difficult instead.
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[that's a huge question to answer, one they likely don't have the full picture of, but if Lan Wangji knew that much maybe he had information they could tie together.
Ydris' only contribution was some grousing, napkin scribbles, and a bullet mark pressed to their head wax. Researching the last item hadn't yielded anything, so really the best the had to offer so far was asking more questions]
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Depends, I suppose. We don't know much about what the normal operations of the place are like. All I know is that there are parts of the Underground you need special access to get to.
[ he'd read that studying the maps he'd acquired that he hadn't been able to put to use at the time. ]
The important thing is that there are mechanisms to control what ways to keep open and which ones to keep closed. Everyone's gonna be curious about what's down there, so my idea would be to get people in as soon as possible to restrict access and take a look at what's going on there more clearly. I don't know how long we can keep people out, but we can at least slow them down. The survival of this Alliance might depend on what we can discover first, as much as I hate to admit it.
[ not so much the secrecy — as much as he doesn't love that either, he more than understands the necessity — but the fact that if all his theories are wrong, things could be incredibly precarious. he's aware of it but keeps pushing forward because he doesn't like to look at the worst-case scenario because it means you can't think clearly. ]
Kappa leadership is nowhere to be found right now, which is suspicious in a lot of ways, but there should be workers who are familiar with operating the systems. Maybe lower foreman? They might be willing to help or even instruct some of us on what to do. In which case...
[ he can't help but smile in ydris' direction. he feels like he brought this home!! in a really lucky way, things fell into place nicely since he's really coming up with these thoughts on the fly. maybe they're not perfect, but they feel good..? ]
...—the Kappa will be the greatest asset we have!
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[ Yuri had slinked in looking a little scuffed up but eyes alert. Having listened to Ydris and Ryouma up to this point, he's going to put out an idea for them to chew on. ]
What if the Alliance isn't as unified as we believe? If the Daitengu is an idea and anyone can assume the identity, maybe a tribe within the Alliance is scheming to instill a member of their own in the position, and used the Kappa as scapegoats to deflect blame.
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All for the sake of power? To cut at one's family for power?
[ His voice sharper than what he intends it to be. Artemy recalls how he had come to love the miracles -- the youkai -- deeply; he seriously took his vow that he would think of them as kin. There may be machinations working, but he would like to believe it is not --
He then remembers what Aerith had said. He did not attempt to do any digging himself; he does not like the idea of the youkai not being so close. Kin may fight, but this goes beyond all measure. They may -- not be the same as his own people, but -- ]
We are as kin, are we not? These bad actors could make us all turn on each other. [ But he does not know what to do. How do they find them? ]
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[ Maybe Yuri's cynical because he's suffered betrayals and had people who were once part of his gang turn against him for as little as coin. That was the risk when you led a bunch of outlaws cobbled together from the streets. It's hard to think the Daitengu wasn't aware of the challenges that heading a diverse group entailed, though. So why did they not take countermeasures?
Yuri senses tension from the man as he grapples with the wicked thought that is kin betraying their own. On that, he can offer one thought with certainty. ]
True family wouldn't betray each other.
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[ it's optimism but ryouma likes to think it's not blind optimism. he considers another question in return. ]
What do you think about this place? As a whole, I mean. When you consider all of it, where do you see the lines drawn?
[ there's more than one way to carve up a place like jigokucho and it's not all neatly down faction lines in his mind, so it makes him wonder how others view it. ]
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[ He hasn't examined it personally, but the guards seem convinced, so unless they're all in on this... ]
Even if it's some other poor soul who took the fall, that's not exactly a good look for the Daitengu. I want to believe it's a trick, but if it is, it's left a real mess. People will be stupid, and our all-knowing boss should know that.
[ If this is a joke, the punchline isn't coming soon enough. The Alliance is fraying and that could spell trouble for the Lost Souls under their contract. ]
As a whole? I think we're all pawns in their game, and we could be playing for a very long time.
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[ it's easy to be in the middle of this and assume the things they do matter, but it's the fact that they're sitting at or near the bottom of the food chain that probably accounts for why he's not ultimately more stressed about this than he already is — which, all things considered, could be a lot worse. ]
At best, you get your pay docked and at worst there are way more severe consequences for us, but I doubt any of the major players would care on a political level. Which is to say, leaving us to our own devices right now is probably pretty harmless.
You're not wrong about it being a game though. I agree. But most things are, one way or another, so it comes down to evening the playing field. That's doable... just, you know, given time.
[ time he's willing to believe they'll have plenty of in the future. if things were so dire that it could all fall to pieces so easily, it would already all be over... wouldn't it? ]
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[ Yuri's all for a good scheme, but with so many moving pieces in this one, there just seems too much that can go wrong. ]
Much of it is out of our hands, sure, but you wouldn't have called us together if you really thought there was nothing we could do, right? So let's put our heads together. Even if it's just organizing ourselves better, there must be something.
[ He's realistic enough to realize they won't be making waves anytime soon, or even splashes, but Yuri's never been the kind to simply sit around and accept things. Ryouma doesn't strike him as the type either. ]
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[ but there's not much that can be done about that, so he just has to put a pin in these things and keep it moving. yuri is exactly right that he's not just going to sit on his hands and let things happen around him. ]
We can do a lot more than nothing, even if it isn't much in the grand scheme of things. I don't think we'll have any shortage of people interested in gathering information, so that'll probably take care of itself. Getting everyone together will also ideally make people more willing to share information in the future.
For now? I think we should work on the Kappa. They're the ones that are going to need the most help and we're going to need their expertise when it comes to the Underground. That's our advantage that the other factions don't have and we would be foolish to squander it.
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[ He won't bet his money on it, but there's a part of him that wants to hold out this is all trickery. We can't be down a leader so soon into the game!
Yuri nods to Ryouma's points. Theorizing is fine and all, but this is what he wants to discuss tonight - plans and next steps. ]
I agree there's no better time to make the Kappa our allies. We're a nosy bunch from what I've been hearing around the room. Why don't we all exchange contacts and keep each other informed? It'll be faster than getting us all together like this. Easier on the wallet, too.
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[ maybe he's just being overly sentimental about this; after all, the whole event and its immediate aftermath really brought him back to a place in his head he hadn't expected to end up. too many old memories managed to get called up way too easily for comfort. maybe he just likes seeing everyone gathered around, calmly talking things through. ]
The ability to communicate quickly and across long distances is really an amazing technological innovation we should be using to the fullest. I have a feeling what we know and when we know it will be important.