I haven't been down there personally, but I sent my shiki to inspect it for me. I have also heard descriptions from those that have investigated the lower levels, on the behalf of the kappa who were stranded at the time.

[This was Sutoku business, and furthermore it was the far more dangerous thing, as far as Matoba is concerned, to let out into the open. But she didn't quite answer his question, did she?]

I would like you to investigate and draw your own conclusions as to just what your lady is after down there. Then, I shall tell you my own impressions. [He turns back to look at her again, cheerful.] That is a fair exchange, don't you think?