jigokulogs | [ OPEN ] trust in me

[she looks at him calmly, and then takes another sip of her tea. did he really not make that connection? is it so surprising that he'd tell her, when if it falls apart her safety is at risk? Ryouma knows enough to fit the pieces together as to why he might do so.]

... Right.

[ no judgement. if anything, ryouma looks pleased?? ~~it's a good arrangement for izō.~~ ]

Between you and Musashi, you'd think I'd planned the whole thing just to end up dead. [ he laughs. ] The time frame's inconvenient to be sure, but I was never planning on doing this thing alone. There's no way! Everybody working together is what makes this work; that's what I was counting on the whole time.

[ he has another sip of his tea and settles now that his surprise has worn off. it's easier to relax thanks to the incense, which together with their setting and everything else makes him feel comfortably nostalgic. there's agarwood and sandalwood, among other things — almost like what you'd find in a temple, if anything — which is arguably what ryouma needs right now even if it wouldn't be his first choice deliberately. ]

If you wanna help, I'd be glad to have you on board!

That brings me to another point. If I want to help. There's an aspect of it all that by necessity I kept quiet, but will run directly counter to your own aims if I was to end up supporting you and throwing my weight into the project.

[the scents calm her, and calm the spirit inside of her, which means she can actually address this with a clear head.]

Frankly speaking, there are materials I use to create some of my more specialized medicines that are...difficult to procure through direct channels. There's enough "legitimate" vendors who are only too happy to see their bottom lines grow at a prohibitive expense, and there are those that are more amiable to what's needed, who understand that I'm willing to pay a fair price to aid others. Helping you close the trade leaks is good for the Shuten and Tamamo clans, but it means I'm reducing the scope of what I'm able to provide to my patients.

[this is where her biggest source of trouble comes in. she can't very well support a plan that means she can't give the best care possible.]

If I assist you with mending the gaps, I'd like you to assist me in negotiations with tradesmen so that they aren't making my supplies troublesome to obtain. Those are my conditions.

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That's a fair concern to have.

[ ryouma helps himself to another bit of dango. he also changes positions a little, half-leaning on the table. very comfortable. ]

I'm sure a lot of people will raise that point but my intention was never to close the leaks entirely. That is, someone else is getting a cut of the profits that should belong to us. I don't want to kill the black market, I just want us to control it. If I have my way you'll get everything you need but at a better price. We'd be cutting out the middle man, after all. If you help me, then I'll help you in return and make sure you get what you need. I did promise as much when I first introduced myself, didn't I? This is what I do.

It's a lovely thought, but it's a grand promise to make when your head's on the chopping block.

[it sounds too good to be true. she has to be suspicious, and think that probably it is. that was drilled into her so far.]

You're saying we'll control the black market, and yet I can't help but think neither Toraguma nor Tenkohime had that in mind when they said you could handle the issues at hand. The Underground can't be such a draw that it will override the cost in reputation to not have their hands in the mix.

It's a general "we", I suppose. "We" is—... honestly? Anyone who isn't the Department of the Enma.

[ so there. that's actually the first time he's said it so directly, but it's not like he has to pretend. ]

It's always been us and "them" in my mind, I guess. I don't have anything against the Lost Souls who work for the Department, but all this going on recently only makes me more certain that the factions need to build up their own strength collectively. We're only going to do that like this.

[ another sip of tea to organise his thoughts. ]

Why haven't they managed this until I proposed it? Because they couldn't do it on their own. They don't have the resources. It's too hard to defend on three or four fronts at the same time and still hold down what you have, especially with them committing themselves to the turf war in general. If either side had won, it would make the whole thing even worse. I know who I work for and the success of the Alliance comes first. [ he's contractually obligated like everyone else, after all. ] But this is no different for me than it's always been — I like it when everybody wins, I guess.

From a purely practical standpoint, I can see the logic. Everyone gets a true piece when they all choose to cooperate. Their resources are allowed to grow and renew themselves, and we all are in agreement that the Department can't see.

[he probably expects that she'll keep going. better a private questioning of what seems to be holes in logic from someone on his side than his enemies.]

Are you going to have oaths sworn over it, or something else in play that keeps one person from sneak attacking the others? I know contracts were mentioned, but they need to be airtight - with the utmost respect, I don't trust someone to not try.

Well, actually, I had.

[ this is at least an easier discussion than the ones he'd had with majima for similar reasons. all the holes had been poked in his logic then and had helped to form a better solution in the end, so this meeting is valuable to him now when there's still work to be done. he has a little to work with here and emily isn't constantly throwing off his rhythm so his thoughts flow neatly together, but then he also knows that was probably intentional on majima's part. ~~more reasons emily is winning right now.~~ ]

The specific language would be included in the contract, of course — all the consequences for betrayals and sorting out minor disputes and the like — but this place has magic and plenty of people who can use it. I wondered if there might actually be a magical solution. It might make everyone more comfortable to have some insurance that isn't swayed by things like emotions or creative interpretations.

[ not that he's suggesting anyone would, but he's sure no one needs any help accusing each other of potential wrongdoing in this arrangement down the road. ]

It might not be necessary to go that far. For all I've heard, honor holds the same weight as gold here. Oaths sworn are powerful things - while we can't make them promise anything beyond the contract, a simple swearing to abide by it would bind everyone involved to each other in the right ways.

[no need to pull in magic unless fully necessary, when one could twist obligations instead.]

Mainly, I worry about a magical loophole built in by whoever designs it. Simplicity offers little wiggle room.

I like simple! I'm used to everyone challenging "simple" with what-ifs, so if you think it's best it's fine with me. I always like things I can understand better than things I don't!

[ in the past honour has only managed to cause him and people he cared about a lot of trouble, so he is not a fan and he can't help but make a face, but he knows how to play along when he needs to. ]

That whole honour business I don't miss and could do without, but I'm willing to go along with it if everyone's satisfied with it.

Honor and the oaths therein is how I remain secure that even should the clans turn on each other, Izo and Majima will not have to go after me for the sake of orders.

[just saying, you might want to find a way to do that for yourself, since someone you care about is bound to another.]

But I digress. There's one more thing I want to raise as a potential point. Hopefully it needn't be addressed, but...

[this, this is where she needs her confidence to hold, even as her heart pounds in uncertainty. this is the part she decided on her own.]

In the future, if the Daitengu is to be unavailable for such discussions, if you have to act...you should have a second, to support you and ensure you aren't outnumbered in the talks.

[it's too forward to suggest herself. she's not a full lieutenant like him, and she's not the only member of the Alliance in her status - but she hopes, secretly, there's at least a consideration as someone sympathetic to his goals.]

Wait—... there's something like that? [ because this is news to him. ] In any case, I think... Izō prefers things as they are. He likes to remind me that I'm on my own even when I've asked for advice to smooth things over, after all.

[ but he's fine turning to emily's other point because he probably won't enjoy thinking about the rest. if he does this right, it won't matter anyway. ]

But you're right, I should. [ he takes it back, thinking about this also sucks given the lack of his usual backup. ] I actually did have two others working closely with me at one point but then they ended up disappearing and it was enough just to pick up the slack. I was planning on calling the others together as well if you wouldn't mind joining us in the future? Something like a strategy meeting. Have you considered if you want to be involved like that yourself?

[ he has to ask that question because it's not as simple as having someone agree to it given the potential for danger. ]

I have, and I do want to be involved.

[he'll never know how much relief just flooded her that he asked.]

The Daitengu has trusted me so far, and I don't want to see that trust simply go to waste from moving away from actually being able to use it. I may not be able to go out and fight like others can when things happen, but that doesn't mean there aren't ways I can't work for the Alliance - for others in general.

[setting her tea down, she folds her hands on her lap. it's up to him now, what he does with that information.]

Good! You've got your thing going with the clinic so I didn't want to impose any more than I already have been, but if you're already on board I'd love to have ya!

[ he's excited, so the accent slips. that feeling of relief is mutual, actually. as much as he enjoys the freedom to go as he pleases, he knows he does better with more grounded people around him. ryouma's ability is his willingness to confidently cross the line and still manage to get away with it (most of the time), but it's easy to stray too far when you don't know where the line is anymore. ]

I don't like to fight anyway, so there's plenty you can do without any of that. Besides, you seem like you have a good sense for the business end of the whole thing from what you've said so far. I have nothing bad to say about the others I was working with before, but not one of them knew a thing about money.

[little does he know, imposing was her goal from the start. why else would she have added a snack he likes into the mix? it was all a scheme, and one she's glad of the results on.]

Sometimes, ideals go and disregard the practical underpinnings. Fortunately or unfortunately, I cannot ignore such things when thinking of plans.

[clinics don't run themselves, and supplies don't come from nowhere.]

You're right. Really, people give me too much credit. Big ideas are nice, but it would've taken me forever to work my way down to what I needed to do to actually make things work. If I ever got there at all.

[ he's just being realistic, not hard on himself. in this, he's very confident. it's just not his area of expertise, so he's perfectly happy to pass the baton to someone else. ]

It's funny, this plan started out as just a party to prove a point and ended up here. That's how my plans shake out, sortin' themselves out as I go along. [ this is why so many people find him incredibly frustrating... ] But I always had a reliable person keepin' an eye on the office!

[ it's a match!! ~~made in hell!!~~ ]

[if his tea is empty, she'll refill it. otherwise, she tells herself to not think about the dango, and to not let too much relief show that he's agreeing to all of this, simply nodding - things get bigger than expected quickly, sometimes.]

How many people do you have so far in this whole operation?

[it'll give her a sense of how much coordination they need.]

I know five or so people I can reliably call upon to help, but I fully intend to bring everyone who has any bit of influence within the Alliance in on this. What we do to sort out the black market business is technically a separate venture from what we need to build down there, so we need to look into appointing someone reliable who can help oversee some of that, first of all.

[ ryouma takes a moment to sip his tea (thanks for topping him off, emily!) before he continues. she can probably see it on his face, the way he doesn't look directly at her while he talks because his eyes unfocus a little. setting things to order in his mind's eye is what it is. ]

Secondly, what I do know is that part of the problem is things disappearing off Celestial-owned ships. They're so wealthy they don't really care that it happens, but it impacts the other 99% of us who don't have coffers full of heavenly riches at our disposal. I couldn't convince them to do anything about the problem directly, but they might be motivated to assist us in ways I haven't thought of yet or at least not be an obstruction. Mostly, I want to find out who is behind the leaks so I can try and buy them out. Taking over the entire operation ourselves would be the last resort.

You could buy them outright, or you could persuade them into working for you if you can prove that you'd offer more security than their thievery gives them. High risk and high reward is all well and good, but consistency might be more worth it in the end, particularly if they have family to take care of.

[it does come with the risk that they might steal from Ryouma, but hopefully the deal meant it would work in their favor for them not to.]

But I don't know very much about how all this is supposed to work, so it could be a perfectly silly idea. You're welcome to correct me.

Ahah, see, I didn't even think'a that! It might ease the process if there's somethin' in it t' sweeten the deal. I wanna find out where the common ground is and what they want, jus' like that. That's how I always do it 'cause arguin' and threatenin' people just puts people on the defensive.

[ he takes smaller sips from his cup and smiles. he almost expects people to skim off the top in any of these dealings, but he can live with that as long as everyone's satisfied in the end — and he can deliver on his promises. ]

It doesn't matter much if ya know how it's s'posed t' work anyway. I never did. It's more important if y' can feel people out and stay flexible.

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